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Old 05-18-2013, 04:51 PM   #1
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Why you game

Which games (keep the list short if you can) would you show to a stranger as the best examples of why you game?

I ask this because an acquaintance had asked me recently for games that demonstrate why I game. She had assumed I'd be all about Call of Duty and trying to defend or sell that franchise to her.

I was pressed to give an answer so I admit that I didn't think too hard about it. I picked out six games. The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past, Super Mario 64, Super Mario Bros and Super Mario Bros. 3, Final Fantasy II and Ico. I guess I picked these games because of the great experiences I had with them and the fact that they are easily playable despite their age.

I don't know if I convinced her of anything or not. (I don't really care if I did because we weren't really friends.) But it did get me thinking about the selections I made.

I'll admit that I haven't done much with the current-gen consoles (PS3/360/Wii) and I didn't mention a lot of the more hardcore experiences because there is the issue of her being able to actually play these games if she were interested--hence no mention of the Metal Gear Solids, 3D Legend of Zeldas or FPSs.

Anyway, what's on your list? What should I have put on mine?

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Old 05-18-2013, 06:45 PM   #2
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Re: Why you game

Dreamfall
Abe's Odyssee
Clock Tower
Riven
Ring of Red
Just cause 2
X-Com: Enemy Unknown

...any Puzzle Quest game

I'd also mention the Fear Effect series on Playstation. Very ambitious, sad it never got a follow-up.
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Old 05-18-2013, 07:49 PM   #3
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Ring of Red
Did you really mean Ring of Red or did you mean to type something else?
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Old 05-18-2013, 10:34 PM   #4
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Re: Why you game



one of my fave mech strategy games ever ever ever
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Old 05-19-2013, 05:33 AM   #5
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Re: Why you game

All my picks are from the current console generation, not because of age, but because I came to gaming late.

I'd approach this from the point of view that you'd need to draw that person in - so cinematic games with a framing story at the start:

Read Dead Redemption: this has a great intro where Marston is escorted onto a train, then listens to the passengers talking about civilising the West, with their hypocrisy on full display. Then he disembarks at a town straight out of the classic westerns. Powerful.

Of course then you have to control him and he immediately gets caught in the scenery but whatever.

ICO and Shadow of the Colossus would also be great examples of this - try and intrigue your friend with the framing story.

Limbo would be a good platformer example as it is so striking and has that gruesome element right off the bat that appeals to us all. It also has just two inputs - move and jump which would simplify things.

For men, racing games such as Gran Turismo.

I'd certainly choose games with very light gameplay elements to start off with.

In summary - strong on the visuals and the emotional impact, light on complex gameplay or controls.
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Old 05-19-2013, 07:47 AM   #6
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Re: Why you game

I would pick one game from the consoles I've had the most experience with, but even that makes it hard to keep the list short

NES - Super Mario Bros. 2
GameBoy - Legend of Zelda: Link's Awakening
SNES - Super Punch-Out!!
Genesis - Sonic the Hedgehog
N64 - WWF No Mercy
Dreamcast - Samba de Amigo (w/ maraca controllers)
GameCube - Metroid Prime
DS - Picross 3D
Xbox 360 - Red Dead Redemption
Wii - WarioWare Smooth Moves

This was kind of a hard list to put together as there are so many other great games that I would want to show off. There is only one other game I would definitely include: Tetris.
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Old 05-26-2013, 04:04 PM   #7
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Re: Why you game

An interesting side question for Dale (and I think QXZ in another thread) - why have you given up on current gen?
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Old 05-27-2013, 06:33 AM   #8
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Re: Why you game

because the mainstreaming of geek culture is turning every game into the same game?

(the JJ Abrams effect)
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Old 05-27-2013, 01:18 PM   #9
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Re: Why you game

Difficult. I might try:
Rayman Origins - in co-op and just give the respective person the second controller. Whoever doesn't find this game utterly charming has no heart. Or is Brad Gallaway :P
Gran Turismo - just ignore the awful menu of GT5, most people get why some1 would like to drive a Ferrari 458 around Monza.
Bioshock Infinite - is just a good showcase of the types of experiences games have to offer.
X-Com: Enemy Unknown - because it's about heart and brain.

I'm not sure if I could get across why I play with Dark Souls, but I'd try.
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But... calloduty will have now dogs! Completely different experience! They said so at the press conference!
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agree about Rayman Origins- wonderfully sweet game-

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Old 05-29-2013, 01:45 PM   #11
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because the mainstreaming of geek culture is turning every game into the same game?

(the JJ Abrams effect)
I can't accept this. These are the games I have played this year - all quality gaming experiences and vastly different:

Shogun II
Miasmata
Demon's Souls
Okami HD
Mark of the Ninja
System Shock 2
OOTP 14
MLB The Show 13
Kentucky Route Zero
Kenshi
RDR
Metro 2033
A Valley Without Wind
Lord of the Rings: the War in the North
Deadly Premonition
Thomas Was Alone
Path of Exile
Quantum Conundrum
Pinball Arcade

I can't really speak for previous generations, but surely this gen has an embarrassment of riches?

EDIT: Okay, kenshi was terrible, but you get my drift!

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Old 05-30-2013, 03:52 PM   #12
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Re: Why you game

I was referring more to the top games of the market, Pedro. Yes there are great indie titles coming out right now, but indie titles don't seem to influence the AAA market's demands.

For ex- Dark Souls- the next Dark Souls is being 'streamlined for greater audience appeal'- ie- turned into a game the diehard fans won't recognize and the general public won't notice because they weren't interested in the first place.

Why does Dead Space 3 need cover based shooting?

I know I keep comparing this to Hollywood, but I think there's precedents. Marketability, brand recognition, profit being driven by doing the same things, not taking chances on art or wild design...

Here's a question- what great games of the last generation wouldn't get a shot if they were made today?
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Old 06-01-2013, 02:25 PM   #13
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Re: Why you game

Sure, I don't disagree with you too strongly about the cookie-cutter triple-A scene; it's run out of steam a little for me and I've taken a pass on both Bioshock I and Tomb Raider this year. However, this trend is just reaching its zenith now late in the generation - it doesn't explain why Dale would choose to skip the whole generation from Day 1. I was thinking the answer would just be something similar to P Skerrit's view that current gen has nothing for him.

I find this strange, as now more than ever, you can mix and match your genres and really just pick out the games that you want to play - there is a niche for everyone and that niche contains many quality games in each genre. That assumes PC gaming in some form though, it's a little more restrictive if you just have a console.

I'm not that hopeful for Dark Souls 2 but I'm not despairing about it either - someone else will make a good game at some point to replace it. Ideally there would be a bunch of Souls-inspired stuff from indies in the same way they all copied/got inspired by Minecraft. That's the dream!

I'm generally in agreement with you on the state of triple-A, but it'll eventually correct itself, hopefully, and we will see original games from mid-level developers to make up for it in the meantime. We should support those games.

It may get worse with the new consoles - they are really only rewarding publishing houses who already have vast budgets - everyone else would be far better continuing to develop for the current gen.

Looking at my list above, for the first time I'm starting to think about PC-only for next gen.

I can't answer your question as I wasn't around for last gen!
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Re: Why you game

Zelda: Ocarina of Time
Red Dead Redemption
GTA: San Andreas/Vice City
Skyrim
Last of Us
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