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Nicato 07-09-2004 01:08 PM

US PSX Delayed
 
Sony delays their PSX:

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Sony Delays PSX Console's U.S. Debut to Next Year
Sony, which gained about two-thirds of its operating profit from games business in the year ended March 31, will debut the PSX ``some time next year,''

GC_Kyle 07-09-2004 01:21 PM

Re: US PSX Delayed
 
Is it just me, or did anyone else think that this thing wasn't even comnig out in the US. I thought they said it wasn't suited to the market here.

Anyway, I don't see this delay as too big of a deal. Everyone and their brother has a PS2 here... are people really gonna buy another?

-Kyle O.

ferrarimanf355 07-09-2004 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by GC_Kyle
Is it just me, or did anyone else think that this thing wasn't even comnig out in the US. I thought they said it wasn't suited to the market here.

Anyway, I don't see this delay as too big of a deal. Everyone and their brother has a PS2 here... are people really gonna buy another?

-Kyle O.

Well said. Why bother with the PSX when a PS2 and a Tivo can do the job better and cheaply?

Nicato 07-09-2004 03:24 PM

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I think it would make more sense for Sony to skp the US PSX launch altogether and focus on the PS3 in (likely) 2007. Isn't the PS3 going to offer some of the same features as PSX anyway?

ferrarimanf355 07-09-2004 03:28 PM

Re: US PSX Delayed
 
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Originally Posted by Nicato
I think it would make more sense for Sony to skp the US PSX launch altogether and focus on the PS3 in (likely) 2007. Isn't the PS3 going to offer some of the same features as PSX anyway?

I didn't hear that. If that's true, then yeah, it would make more sense for Sony to scrap any US PSX plans altogether.

Nicato 07-09-2004 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by ferrarimanf355
I didn't hear that.

Here is a somewhat recent story:

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Analyst report moots $500 PS3 launch price
Pachter and Woo claim in the report that Sony will try to introduce the PS3 with significantly more functionality than current consoles, building on the model of the PSX device - which includes a digital video recorder (DVR), DVD burner and a number of other home media centre style functions.

The report suggests that by late 2006 - generally considered to be the earliest possible launch window for the PS3 - these features will cost roughly $250 to include in a system, leading to a $500 price tag for the next generation console.

EnduroGamer 07-09-2004 03:47 PM

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My guess is that Sony is simply trying to add another trendy SKU to offer in their SonyStyle catalog. It's not going to be a massmarket product, but rather another little niche offering for the people who have to have everything.

Just don't tell them that a PS2 is only $179 and you can get a DirecTV with TIVO/DVR for less than the difference.

ferrarimanf355 07-09-2004 03:48 PM

Re: US PSX Delayed
 
Hm, that doesn't seem to confirm that the PS3 will indeed have the features of the PSX. I'm keeping my eyes open, though: if those features cost less than $250 to include, and if the price is around $300 instead of $500, then Sony has a legit reason to put them in.
A late 2006 at the earliest release would make a US PSX release more logical, although the PS2 and Tivo combo I mentioned would be preferred... :)

Nicato 07-09-2004 03:59 PM

Re: US PSX Delayed
 
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Originally Posted by ferrarimanf355
Hm, that doesn't seem to confirm that the PS3 will indeed have the features of the PSX. I'm keeping my eyes open, though: if those features cost less than $250 to include, and if the price is around $300 instead of $500, then Sony has a legit reason to put them in.

Here is a tidbit of info that, at once, suggests that the PS3 will be one expensive motha and that the PS3 will do a helluva lot more than game:

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Sony invests €1.5 billion in PS3 technology
The Cell chip, developed in partnership between Sony, IBM and Toshiba, will (allegedly) be over a thousand times faster than the 300Mhz MIPS core found in the current PlayStation 2, and has been designed from the outset for networked computing applications and parallel processing - where several Cell chips work together in a single device. The PS3 is expected to have four or possibly even eight Cell processors.

Given this, it's unsurprising that the development partners describe their project as a "supercomputer on a chip" - and aside from giving Sony a significant technology lead with the PS3, Cell will also have massive ramifications outside the console industry which begin to give a clearer picture of the size of Sony's ambitions.
Note: The rate of exchage ajustment: 1.5 billion EUR is 1.8 billion USD at the date of the story. Source.

Nicato 07-09-2004 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Moron Lite
I thought the consensus was that Sony would release PS3s with varying levels of functionality?

Who would buy the expensive ones? If the ones that cost the most money to manufacture sit on the shelf, that'd be like throwing money away.

EDIT:: By the way, the videogame press really needs to comment on Sony. They are putting everthing on the line for UMD and Cell and nobody has said a word. *Sigh* I guess they only complain when you are making pratical business choices.

Nicato 07-09-2004 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Moron Lite
People that want the extra features. There may not be a huge market for the PS3++, but it may well be more profitable for Sony anyway.

Ptf. Well, with the PSX, that theory will be tested soon enough.

Nicato 07-11-2004 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Moron Lite
It's already proved (more than) successful in Japan. ;) I rather doubt there's much of a market for these things in the US, though.

I don't think so either. This gets me back to the original question: who would buy the more expensive PS3s?

I don't think there are enough people willing to slap down the (likely) $500 price tag if there is a $300 one right next to it.

Nicato 07-11-2004 11:10 PM

Re: US PSX Delayed
 
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Originally Posted by Moron Lite
I take it you mean, "Besides the Japanese"?

Did the dollar signs give it away? :P.

Do you have a link to a story on how well the PSX faired in the land of the rising sun, Moron Lite?

Nicato 07-11-2004 11:40 PM

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I googled gamesindustry.biz and here is what I got on the performance of the PSX in JP.

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Sony to launch PSX update as Japanese retailers criticise marketing (Jan 2004)
Although Sony's marketing blitz for the PSX prior to Christmas was massive, it was a traditional Sony effort in that it focused primarily on brand appeal and contained little information - an approach which doesn't work for devices such as the PSX, claim retailers.
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Sony updates PSX range in Japan (June 2004)
After a rocky start, Sony hopes new features will win consumers over

Nicato 07-12-2004 11:22 AM

Re: US PSX Delayed
 
What is interesting is that if you combine both stories together, you discover that Sony's attitude toward the PSX is all wrong. They are expecting the massess to run out and buy it (as told by the first story) and that's just not going to happen. The PSX is a going to be a toy for the rich.

Based on gi.biz's implactations--and perhaps Sony's reluntance to release sales data--I don't think the PSX has been "more than" successful and JP. It might give the segway a run for its money here, though. ;).

Of course, this gets me back to my orginal question: who would buy the more expensive PSX-like PS3s if no one is going to by the PSX?


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