Micheal Jackson
 

Ok, anyone who didn't watch the documentry on this most mysterious and scary pop star has to be crazy. Its one of the most sad things I've ever seen in my life. What's your opinion on it? I don't think there's really anything wrong with him jumping into bed with some kids, because I think, he thinks, he's a kid as well. He's just so extroadinarly damaged emotionally, that I think it would be silly to think that he molestes children. His face is still very VERY scary, but this documentry made me feel sympathy and compassion for the poor domented soul, despite the journalist's best efforts to make him out as a wierdo who we should all reject.

Maybe he has the right idea and the rest of the world is crazy. Maybe not growing up because society tells us otherwise is ok. If I listened to my parents telling me how games were for children, I guess I wouldnt be reading this site right now. :p

I didn't watch the documentary, but I wish I had. Bottom line is, he's an extremely talented guy. That's all that matters.

"Bottom line is, he's an extremely talented guy. That's all that matters."
If he fondles children, is his talent still the only thing that matters?

"He's just so extroadinarly damaged emotionally, that I think it would be silly to think that he molestes children."
Someone with a more intense knowledge of psychology would have to weigh in on this one, but I think severe emotional damage makes you more likely to molest children. As I have said before, numerous voice analysts have concluded that Michael Jackson has lied about his relations with children in the past. In no way is this a smoking gun to proove he should be locked up but... I'm certainly not interested in jumping to his defense anymore.
http://www.lsiscan.com/michael_jackson_s_statement_.htm

I have sympathy for Michael Jackson, but it only goes so far. I think he's probably a loving father, but that in no way makes him a very good one. As he himself admitted in the documentary, his surrogate mothers gave him his children as "gifts." These children have no mothers, they're basically toys to allow MJ to fulfil his own desires. Unlike with his pedophilia settlement where his guilt can't be proven, we can clearly see here that MJ is harming people other than himself.

Well, yes it is. If we're discussing him as a musician and artist, as I was with that comment. Tchaikovsky was attracted to boys and even had a thing for his own nephew. This doesn't mean that we should all boycott Swan Lake.

I just wanted to clarify that. Actually, what I find more morbidly fascinating than his child-man issues is his obsession with plastic surgery.
http://www.anomalies-unlimited.com/Jackson.html

Michael Jackson is a victim of his own success. His 'extreme talent' was pushed to the limits once he decided to have plastic surgery (in order to make himself a more global or cosmolpolitan performer). Although I remain partial to much of his music (Off the Wall is still a great album, Thriller has some great songs, Bad is often self explanatory, Dangerous was a contradiction in terms, and Invincible a grand folly), he lost my vote of confidence after Black or White was released. This song marks the place where he fails to actively engage with his own talent on a personal level, and is an example of an artist being in denial. Not only with respect to himself but in relation to his own mass audience.

Despite having plastic surgery to shed the negro aspects of his appearance (and being critised for it as a result) his 'comeback' is a song which urges that color should make no moral or racial difference. He even has the audacity to refer to himself in the second person, and displace the question of racial harmony onto his (white) 'baby'. This lame (and unintended?) piece of social prophesy insists that it doesn't matter whether your black or white. Easy to say when you've allowed youself to become pink, and will only breed white babies.

Black Or White (or, Child-Man Issues)

I took my baby on a Saturday bang
Boy is that girl with you
Yes we're one and the same

Now I believe in miracles
And a miracle has happened tonight

But, if you're thinkin' about my baby
It don't matter if you're black or white

They print my message in the Saturday Sun
I had to tell them I ain't second to none

And I told about equality and it's true
Either you're wrong or you're right

But, if you're thinkin' about my baby
It don't matter if you're black or white

I am tired of this devil
I am tired of this stuff
I am tired of this business
Sew when the going gets rough
I ain't scared of your brother
I ain's scared of no sheets
I ain't scared of nobody
Girl when the goin' gets mean

Protection
For gangs, clubs, and nations
causing grief in human relations
It's a turf war on a global scale
I'd rather hear both sides of the tale
See, it's not about races
Just places
Faces
Where your blood comes from
Is were your space is
I've seen the bright get duller
I'm not going to spend my life being a color

Don't tell me you agree with me
When I saw you kicking dirt in my eye

But, if you're thinkin' about my baby
It don't matter if you're black or white

I said if you're thinkin' of being my baby
It don't matter if you're black or white

I said if you're thinkin' of being my brother
It don't matter if you're black or white

Ooh, ooh
Yea, yea, yea now
Ooh, ooh
Yea, yea, yea now

It's black, it's white
It's tough for them to get by
It's black, it's white, whoo

He didnt have the surgery to be more cosmopolitan. He actually did it because he didnt want to look like his father who he dislikes to say the least. Besides...whats so bad about black or white? Its basically saying it doesnt matter what colour you are. Assuming he changed his colour on purpose, the song doesnt make him a hypocrit.

What about people who have tatoos to change the appearance of their skin? Theyre changing their original skin tone. Does that make them anti-white or anti-black. Big deal...he's white. His choice just as its anyones choice to have tatoos covering their entire body.

I'll only say this:

I have to agree with kant, Michael Jackson was at his musical best with "Off The Wall." Nothing else he's done compares.

They told him don't you ever come around here
Don't wanna see your face, you better disappear
The fire's in their eyes and their words are really clear
So beat it, just beat it

You better run, you better do what you can
Don't wanna see no blood, don't be a macho man
You wanna be tough, better do what you can
So beat it, but you wanna be bad

Just beat it, beat it, beat it, beat it
No one wants to be defeated
Showin' how funky and strong is your fight
It doesn't matter who's wrong or right
Just beat it, beat it
Just beat it, beat it
Just beat it, beat it
Just beat it, beat it

They're out to get you, better leave while you can
Don't wanna be a boy, you wanna be a man
You wanna stay alive, better do what you can
So beat it, just beat it

You have to show them that you're really not scared
You're playin' with your life, this ain't no truth or dare
They'll kick you, then they beat you,
Then they'll tell you it's fair
So beat it, but you wanna be bad

Just beat it, beat it, beat it, beat it
No one wants to be defeated
Showin' how funky and strong is your fight
It doesn't matter who's wrong or right

Just beat it, beat it, beat it, beat it
No one wants to be defeated
Showin' how funky and strong is your fight
It doesn't matter who's wrong or right

Just beat it, beat it, beat it, beat it
No one wants to be defeated
Showin' how funky and strong is your fight
It doesn't matter who's wrong or right
Just beat it, beat it
Beat it, beat it, beat it

Beat it, beat it, beat it, beat it
No one wants to be defeated
Showin' how funky and strong is your fight
It doesn't matter who's wrong or who's right

Just beat it, beat it, beat it, beat it
No one wants to be defeated
Showin' how funky and strong is your fight
It doesn't matter who's wrong or right

Just beat it, beat it, beat it, beat it
No one wants to be defeated
Showin' how funky and strong is your fight
It doesn't matter who's wrong or right
Just beat it, beat it
Beat it, beat it, beat it

Beat it, beat it, beat it, beat it
No one wants to be defeated
Showin' how funky and strong is your fight
It doesn't matter who's wrong or who's right

Just beat it, beat it, beat it, beat it
No one wants to be defeated
Showin' how funky and strong is your fight
It doesn't matter who's wrong or right

Just beat it, beat it, beat it, beat it
No one wants to be defeated
Showin' how funky and strong is your fight
It doesn't matter who's wrong or right

Just beat it, beat it, beat it, beat it
No one wants to be defeated
Just beat it, beat it
Beat it, beat it, beat it

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"Leave Me Alone"

Aaow!-Hoo Hoo!

I Don't Care What You Talkin'
'Bout Baby
I Don't Care What You Say
Don't You Come Walkin'
Beggin' Back Mama
I Don't Care Anyway
Time After Time I Gave You All Of My Money
No Excuses To Make
Ain't No Mountain That I
Can't Climb Baby
All Is Going My Way

('Cause There's A Time When
You're Right)
(And You Know You Must
Fight)
Who's Laughing Baby, Don't
You Know
(And There's The Choice That
We Make)
(And This Choice You Will
Take)
Who's Laughin' Baby

So Just Leave Me Alone
Leave Me Alone
(Leave Me Alone)
(Leave Me Alone)
Leave Me Alone
(Leave Me Alone)
(Leave Me Alone)
(Leave Me Alone)
Leave Me Alone-Stop It!
Just Stop Doggin' Me Around
(Just Stop Doggin' Me)

There Was A Time I Used To
Say Girl I Need You
But Who Is Sorry Now
You Really Hurt, You Used To
Take And Deceive Me
Now Who Is Sorry Now
You Got A Way Of Making Me
Feel So Sorry
I Found Out Right Away
Don't You Come Walkin'-
Beggin' I Ain't Lovin' You
Don't You Get In My Way
'Cause
(There's A Time When You're
Right)
(And You Know You Must
Fight)
Who's Laughing Baby-Don't
You Know?
(And There's The Choice That
We Make)
(And This Choice You Will
Take)
Who's Laughin' Baby?

So Just Leave Me Alone
Leave Me Alone
(Leave Me Alone)
(Leave Me Alone)
Leave Me Alone
Leave Me Alone
(Leave Me Alone)
(Leave Me Alone)
(Leave Me Alone)
Stop It!
Just Stop Doggin' Me Around
(Just Stop Doggin' Me)

('Cause There's A Time When
You're Right)
(And You Know You Must
Fight)
Who's Laughing Baby, Don't
You Know, Girl
(It's The Choice That We
Make)
(And This Choice You Will
Take)
Who's Laughin' Baby

So Just Leave Me Alone
Leave Me Alone
(Leave Me Alone)
(Leave Me Alone)
Leave Me Alone
Leave Me Alone
(Leave Me Alone)
(Leave Me Alone)
(Leave Me Alone)
Stop It!
Just Stop Doggin' Me Around
Leave Me Alone
Leave Me Alone
(Leave Me Alone)
(Leave Me Alone)
Leave Me Alone
(Leave Me Alone)
Leave Me Alone-Stop It!

Just Stop Doggin' Me Around
(Just Stop Doggin' Me)
Don't Come Beggin' Me
Don't Come Beggin'
Don't Come Lovin' Me
Don't Come Beggin'
I Love You
I Don't Want It
I Don't . . .
I Don't . . .
I Don't . . .
I . . .I . . ., Aaow!
Hee Hee!
Don't Come Beggin' Me
Don't Come Beggin'
Don't Come Lovin' Me
Don't Come Beggin'
I Love You
I Don't Want It
I Don't Need It

I said you wanna be startin' somethin'
You got to be startin' somethin'
I said you wanna be startin' somethin'
You got to be startin' somethin'
It's too high to get over (yeah, yeah)
Too low to get under (yeah, yeah)
You're stuck in the middle (yeah, yeah)
And the pain is thunder (yeah, yeah)
It's too high to get over (yeah, yeah)
Too low to get under (yeah, yeah)
You're stuck in the middle (yeah, yeah)
And the pain is thunder (yeah, yeah)

I took my baby to the doctor
With a fever, but nothing he found
By the time this hit the street
They said she had a breakdown
Someone's always tryin' to start my baby cryin'
Talkin', squealin', lyin'
Sayin' you just wanna be startin' somethin'

I said you wanna be startin' somethin'
You got to be startin' somethin'
I said you wanna be startin' somethin'
You got to be startin' somethin'
It's too high to get over (yeah, yeah)
Too low to get under (yeah, yeah)
You're stuck in the middle (yeah, yeah)
And the pain is thunder (yeah, yeah)
It's too high to get over (yeah, yeah)
Too low to get under (yeah, yeah)
You're stuck in the middle (yeah, yeah)
And the pain is thunder (yeah, yeah)

You love to pretend that you're good
When you're always up to no good
You really can't make him hate her
So your tongue became a razor
Someone's always tryin' to keep my baby cryin'
Treacherous, cunnin', declinin'
You got my baby cryin'

I said you wanna be startin' somethin'
You got to be startin' somethin'
I said you wanna be startin' somethin'
You got to be startin' somethin'
It's too high to get over (yeah, yeah)
Too low to get under (yeah, yeah)
You're stuck in the middle (yeah, yeah)
And the pain is thunder (yeah, yeah)
It's too high to get over (yeah, yeah)
Too low to get under (yeah, yeah)
You're stuck in the middle (yeah, yeah)
And the pain is thunder (yeah, yeah)
You're a vegetable, you're a vegetable
Still they hate you, you're a vegetable
You're just a buffet, you're a vegetable
They eat off of you, you're a vegetable

Billie Jean is always talkin'
When nobody else is talkin'
Tellin' lies and rubbin' shoulders
So they called her mouth a motor
Someone's always tryin' to start my baby cryin'
Talkin', squealin', spyin'
Sayin' you just wanna be startin' somethin'

I said you wanna be startin' somethin'
You got to be startin' somethin'
I said you wanna be startin' somethin'
You got to be startin' somethin'
It's too high to get over (yeah, yeah)
Too low to get under (yeah, yeah)
You're stuck in the middle (yeah, yeah)
And the pain is thunder (yeah, yeah)
It's too high to get over (yeah, yeah)
Too low to get under (yeah, yeah)
You're stuck in the middle (yeah, yeah)
And the pain is thunder (yeah, yeah)
You're a vegetable, you're a vegetable
Still they hate you, you're a vegetable
You're just a buffet, you're a vegetable
They eat off of you, you're a vegetable

If you can't feed your baby (yeah, yeah)
Then don't have a baby (yeah, yeah)
And don't think maybe (yeah, yeah)
If you can't feed your baby (yeah, yeah)
You'll be always tryin'
To stop that child from cryin'
Hustlin', stealin', lyin'
Now baby's slowly dyin'

I said you wanna be startin' somethin'
You got to be startin' somethin'
I said you wanna be startin' somethin'
You got to be startin' somethin'
It's too high to get over (yeah, yeah)
Too low to get under (yeah, yeah)
You're stuck in the middle (yeah, yeah)
And the pain is thunder (yeah, yeah)
It's too high to get over (yeah, yeah)
Too low to get under (yeah, yeah)
You're stuck in the middle (yeah, yeah)
And the pain is thunder (yeah, yeah)

Lift your head up high
And scream out to the world
I know I am someone
And let the truth unfurl
No one can hurt you now
Because you know what's true
Yes, I believe in me
So you believe in you
Help me sing it, ma ma se,
Ma ma sa, ma ma coo sa
Ma ma se, ma ma sa,
Ma ma coo sa

Your Butt Is Mine
Gonna Take You Right
Just Show Your Face
In Broad Daylight
I'm Telling You
On How I Feel
Gonna Hurt Your Mind
Don't Shoot To Kill
Come On, Come On,
Lay It On Me All Right...

I'm Giving You
On Count Of Three
To Show Your Stuff
Or Let It Be . . .
I'm Telling You
Just Watch Your Mouth
I Know Your Game
What You're About

Well They Say The Sky's
The Limit
And To Me That's Really True
But My Friend You Have
Seen Nothing
Just Wait 'Til I Get Through . . .

Because I'm Bad, I'm Bad-
Come On
(Bad Bad-Really, Really Bad)
You Know I'm Bad, I'm Bad-
You Know It
(Bad Bad-Really, Really Bad)
You Know I'm Bad, I'm Bad-
Come On, You Know
(Bad Bad-Really, Really Bad)
And The Whole World Has To
Answer Right Now
Just To Tell You Once Again,
Who's Bad . . .

The Word Is Out
You're Doin' Wrong
Gonna Lock You Up
Before Too Long,
Your Lyin' Eyes
Gonna Take You Right
So Listen Up
Don't Make A Fight,
Your Talk Is Cheap
You're Not A Man
You're Throwin' Stones
To Hide Your Hands

But They Say The Sky's
The Limit
And To Me That's Really True
And My Friends You Have
Seen Nothin'
Just Wait 'Til I Get Through . . .

Because I'm Bad, I'm Bad-
Come On
(Bad Bad-Really, Really Bad)
You Know I'm Bad, I'm Bad-
You Know It
(Bad Bad-Really, Really Bad)
You Know I'm Bad, I'm Bad-
You Know It, You Know
(Bad Bad-Really, Really Bad)
And The Whole World Has To
Answer Right Now
(And The Whole World Has To
Answer Right Now)
Just To Tell You Once Again,
(Just To Tell You Once Again)
Who's Bad . . .

We Can Change The World
Tomorrow
This Could Be A Better Place
If You Don't Like What I'm
Sayin'
Then Won't You Slap My
Face . . .

Because I'm Bad, I'm Bad-
Come On
(Bad Bad-Really, Really Bad)
You Know I'm Bad, I'm Bad-
You Know It
(Bad Bad-Really, Really Bad)
You Know I'm Bad, I'm Bad-
You Know It, You Know
(Bad Bad-Really, Really Bad)

Woo! Woo! Woo!
(And The Whole World Has
To Answer Right Now
Just To Tell You Once
Again . . .)
You Know I'm Bad, I'm Bad-
Come On
(Bad Bad-Really, Really Bad)
You Know I'm Bad, I'm Bad-
You Know It-You Know It
(Bad Bad-Really, Really Bad)
You Know, You Know, You
Know, Come On
(Bad Bad-Really, Really Bad)
And The Whole World Has To
Answer Right Now
(And The Whole World Has To
Answer Right Now)
Just To Tell You
(Just To Tell You Once Again)

You Know I'm Smooth, I'm
Bad, You Know It
(Bad Bad-Really, Really Bad)
You Know I'm Bad, I'm
Bad Baby
(Bad Bad-Really, Really Bad)
You Know, You Know, You
Know It, Come On
(Bad Bad-Really, Really Bad)
And The Whole World Has To
Answer Right Now
(And The Whole World Has To
Answer Right Now)
Woo!
(Just To Tell You Once Again)

You Know I'm Bad, I'm Bad-
You Know It
(Bad Bad-Really, Really Bad)
You Know I'm Bad-You
Know-Hoo!
(Bad Bad-Really, Really Bad)
You Know I'm Bad-I'm Bad-
You Know It, You Know
(Bad Bad-Really, Really Bad)
And The Whole World Has To
Answer Right Now
(And The Whole World Has To
Answer Right Now)
Just To Tell You Once Again . . .
(Just To Tell You Once
Again . . .)
Who's Bad?

I just want to lay next to you for a while
You look so beautiful tonight
Your eyes are so lovely
Your mouth is so sweet
A lot of people misunderstand me
That’s because they don’t know me at all
I just want to touch you
And hold you
I need you
God, I need you
I love you so much

Each time the wind blows
I hear your voice so
I call your name
Whispers at morning
Our love is dawning
Heaven’s glad you came

You know how I feel
This thing can’t go wrong
I’m so proud to say I love you
Your love’s got me high
I long to get by
This time is forever
Love is the answer

I hear your voice now
You are my choice now
The love you bring
Heaven’s in my heart
At your call I hear harps
And Angels sing
You know how I feel
This thing can’t go wrong
I can’t live my life without you

I just can’t hold on
I feel we belong
My life ain’t worth living
If I can’t be with you

I just can’t stop loving you
I just can’t stop loving you
And if I stop
Then tell me just what will I do
’Cause I just can’t stop loving you

At night when the stars shine
I pray in you I’ll find a love so true
When morning awakes me
Will you come and take me
I’ll wait for you

You know how I feel
I won’t stop until I hear
Your voice saying I do
(I do)
This thing can’t go wrong
This feeling’s so strong
Well, my life ain’t worth living
If I can’t be with you

I just can’t stop loving you
I just can’t stop loving you
(If I don’t)
And if I stop
Then tell me just what will I do
I just can’t stop loving you

We can change all the world tomorrow
We can sing songs of yesterday
I can say,’Hey, farewell to sorrow’
This is my life and I
Want to see you for always

I just can’t stop loving you
(Oh, baby)
(Oh)
I just can’t stop loving you
(If I can’t stop)
And if I stop
(Oh)
Then tell me just what will I do
(Oh)
(What will I do)
(Oh)
I just can’t stop loving you
(Why do, girl)
I just can’t stop loving you
(And nobody but’you)
And if I stop
Then tell me just what will I do

so fitting this song is for kant :p


(Spoken)
There's something I have to say to you
If you promise you'll understand
I cannot contain myself when in your presence
I'm so humble, just touch me
Don't hide our love
Woman to man

She's just a lover, who makes me high
It's worth the giving, it's worth the try
You cannot cleave it, or put it in the furnace
You cannot wet it, you cannot burn it

She wants to give it
(She wants to give it, aahh, she wants to give it)
Dare me
(She wants to give it, aahh, she wants to give it)
She wants to give it

(She wants to give it, aahh, she wants to give it)
Yea
(She wants to give it, aahh, she wants to give it)

It's just a feeling, you have to soothe it
You can't neglect it, you can't abuse it
It's just desire, you cannot waste it
Then, if you want it, then, won't you taste it

She wants to give it
(She wants to give it, aahh, she wants to give it)
Yea
(She wants to give it, aahh, she wants to give it)
She wants to give it

She wants to give it
(She wants to give it, aahh, she wants to give it)
Yea
(She wants to give it, aahh, she wants to give it)

One thing in life you must understand
The truth of lust woman to man
So open the door, and you will see
There are no secrets
Make your move, set me free

Because there's something about you baby
That makes me want to give it to you
I swear there's something about you baby

Just promise me, whatever we say
Whatever we do to eachother
For now we take a vow to just
Keep it in the closet

Just promise me, whatever we say
Or do to each other
For now we'll make a vow to just
Keep it in the closet

If you can get it, it's worth a try
I really want it, I can't deny
It's just desire, I really love it
'Cause if it's aching, you have to rub it
She wants to give it

(She wants to give it, aahh, she wants to give it)
Yea
(She wants to give it, aahh, she wants to give it)
She wants to give it

(She wants to give it, aahh, she wants to give it)
Dare me
(She wants to give it, aahh, she wants to give it)

Just open the door, and you will see
This passion burns inside of me
Don't say to me, you'll never tell
Touch me there, make the move
Cast the spell

Because there's something about you baby
That makes me want to give it to you
I swear there's something about you baby

Just promise me, whatever we say
Or do to each other
For now we take a vow to just
Keep it in the closet

Because there's something about you baby
That makes me want to give it to you

I swear there's something about you baby
That makes me want to give it to you

I swear there's something about you baby
That makes me want to give it to you

I swear there's something about you baby
That makes me want to give it to you

I swear there's something about you baby
That makes me want to give it to you

I swear there's something about you baby
That makes me want to give it to you

I swear there's something about you baby
Makes me want

Just promise me, whatever we say
Or whatever we do to each other
For now we'll make a vow to just
Keep it in the closet

(She wants to give it)
Dare me
(Aahh)
Keep it in the closet
(She wants to give it)
Dare me
(Aahh)
Keep it in the closet

(She wants to give it, aahh, she wants to give it)
(She wants to give it, aahh, she wants to give it)
Dare me

(She wants to give it, aahh, she wants to give it)
Dare me
(She wants to give it, aahh, she wants to give it)
Keep it in the closet

(She wants to give it, aahh, she wants to give it)
(She wants to give it, aahh, she wants to give it)
Dare me

(She wants to give it, aahh, she wants to give it)
Dare me
(She wants to give it, aahh, she wants to give it)
Dare me

(She wants to give it)
Keep it in the closet

(She wants to give it)

(She wants to give it)
Keep it in the closet

(She wants to give it, aahh, she wants to give it)
Dare me